Beyond Coding Episode #117

Developer Advocacy, Burnout Recovery and Communities with Lian Li

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https://youtu.be/tuIxuiG2MIY

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Guest

Connect with Lian Li:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lian-li

https://twitter.com/lianmakesthings

https://lianmakesthings.dev

 

Outline

00:00:00 – Intro
00:00:25 – Reminiscing about older videos
00:02:46 – Standing on stage
00:04:22 – The impact of developer advocacy
00:06:04 – Measuring your impact
00:10:09 – Transitioning to developer advocacy
00:12:19 – What to focus on as dev rel
00:14:32 – Discussions and disagreements
00:16:21 – Creating a shared understanding
00:18:29 – Lian’s career choices and progression
00:21:21 – Consultancy mindset
00:22:58 – Under-promise over-deliver
00:24:02 – Starting over with dev rel?
00:26:09 – Lian’s burnout
00:30:39 – Recovering from a burnout
00:32:58 – Timeouts and routine
00:34:58 – Sleep in your running shoes
00:35:44 – Living in pajamas
00:36:03 – Remote working
00:36:44 – Tourists in Amsterdam
00:38:02 – Building a community
00:40:59 – Teams and communities
00:42:00 – Giving your thing away
00:43:13 – Micromanaging and letting go
00:45:36 – Tribal leadership
00:48:04 – Behaviour while being stressed
00:49:40 – Self awareness and triggers
00:50:07 – All tech problems are human problems